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September 5, 2008
Posted: 1539 GMT

LONDON, England – Spread over several glossy pages, the kind usually reserved for Carla Bruni’s latest outfit, are smug Taliban insurgents sporting French military uniforms, helmets, even loot mugged from dead French soldiers.

One of the pictures in the French magazine Paris Match that has stirred controversy.
One of the pictures in the French magazine Paris Match that has stirred controversy.

The pictures did exactly what the Taliban wanted them to do: Enrage the French, the majority of whom already are wondering why their soldiers are still fighting in Afghanistan.

The trophy shots were published by Paris Match and its investigative journalist Eric de Lavarene. He defended his story in the French media, saying the stories and the pictures were worthy of full disclosure and were not a tool of Taliban propaganda. Read story here.

Last fall NATO admitted to us during an escorted trip to Afghanistan that the Taliban was indeed winning the propaganda war. NATO spokesman James Appathurai told us at the time: “We’re in a sense winning the tactical battles but we’re not focussing enough on the strategic battle, which is public opinion.”

At that time, NATO officials vowed to do better, but it’s clear now they have their hands full fighting new tactical battles that the public relations war will have to wait.

Last year was Afghanistan’s bloodiest since 2007. In 2008, during any given month, more Allied forces are killed in Afghanistan than Iraq.

It all makes for sobering reading for any country with troops now posted in Afghanistan. The true threat is reflected in the nature of the Taliban’s propaganda. When we discussed this with NATO last fall, it was clear the Taliban’s words were just that: words. Now, they seem more like credible threats.

During the Paris Match interview, a Taliban commander named as Farouki warned the French: “If you stay, we will kill you. All of you.”

All of this begs one question: if a French journalist and photographer can get so close to the Taliban, close enough to take posed shots and conduct recorded interviews where they openly boast of having killed 10 French soldiers just weeks before, then why can’t NATO forces find them and confront them?

NATO may have good reason to abandon the strategic, public relations war with the Taliban, but it is the tactical battle that now also seems to challenging commanders on the ground.

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inuniformthereforewise   September 5th, 2008 1622 GMT

“..if a French journalist and photographer can get so close to the Taliban,…… then why can’t NATO forces find them and confront them?”

I know! I know! I think I know the answer to this question. OK, it is like this: Soldiers do what they are told and kill folks for a government paycheck, whereas reporters are generally open and friendly, and only want to talk.

How did I do? Did I win a star for observing the way of the world?

Whatever you do, NEVER ask McCain about the children he killed with bombs from the air. That isn’t fair. He is allowed to kill children. It makes him a hero. He was fighting for FREEDOM!!!! Right? CNN? America? FREEDOM!!! And weapons sales. To buy another house.

latha rajamani   September 5th, 2008 1740 GMT

We in India have been suffering from terrorism since the 80s thanks to the CIAs help for the Afghan fighters who after having driven out the Russians from Afghanistan used the arms and left over cash to create havoc in Punjab and in Indian Occupied Kashmir.Punjab problem fizzled out but at a great cost but the Kashmir issue will never die down unless Nato is successful in killing all the terrorists living in Pak border.If the going gets too tough in Pakistan border all of them may end up in Indian Occupied kashmir and then India will have had it!

Les Mangi   September 5th, 2008 1745 GMT

And so it goes. Did we get the upperhand in Iraq through our actions, or did Al Qaeda & company merely retreat to the better battlefield - Afghanistan? This will go on for years, and Russia of course is laughing its head off at us. Iraq was George Bush’s war; Afghanistan will end up occupying the entire terms of McCain/Obama.

Patrick BECH   September 5th, 2008 1849 GMT

A nice real story/reportage:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/afghanistan/video/x6mz22_reportage-44-la-france-dans-la-guer_news

Chris is Replublitardville Miami   September 5th, 2008 1855 GMT

AH, I love it when the media fans the flames of war like a giddy cheerleader at a highschool football game.

J L   September 5th, 2008 2237 GMT

Begs one question, eh? Way to go on the copy editing CNN.

moya   September 5th, 2008 2241 GMT

the reason our troops can’t get that close to these taliban chickens is because when the taliban see coalition soldiers closing in on them they hide or mix themselves up with civilians. Our troops should dress up like afgans and hunt these cowards down.

Food shortage   September 6th, 2008 145 GMT

The world will get together to boycott London Olympics. The Brits has invaded allover, divided everwhere and seeded all the troubles for the people of the world for many years to come.

The Olympics should never be held by the Brits - destructors of humanity. Human should never forget the two world wars when they have to send their precious children to die. The two wars were brewed, started and carried out by the Brits.

Free Tibet, Boycott Brits.

Mike   September 6th, 2008 411 GMT

inuniformthereforewise…I agree with you that the innocent suffer and it is terrible, but don’t forget the terrorists did not care when they took over three planes and drove them into the WTC and Pentagon. We take every precaution to prevent innocent deaths. What are we suppose to do just sit the sidelines while terrorists run havoc over the world. You are a complete idiot! Just remember it has been wars and conflicts since 1776 which have allowed you to continue to have free speech, and voice your idiotic oppinions. I want you to keep talking so we can have a complete picture of the moronic base supporting Obama who will only focus on the economy and let the security of our nation and yes…the world too…go up in smoke!

Peter Kramer   September 6th, 2008 844 GMT

If we offer the ordinary Afghan an honest income and an end to corruption, then we might be able to win the war. We’re not doing that. Hence, we’re losing the war, and rightfully so.

Troubled Troops   September 6th, 2008 927 GMT

I can tell you the real reasons why the Taliban will continue to evade the NATO forces, it’s easier to understand than you might think. A Soldier will come into theathre and leave again in about a six month span, sometimes less, and a member of the Taliban is here for the duration. If NATO is truly fighting a war on Terror, and not a global circus trying to find out which country can send the least amount of Troops into harms way, only to have the Americans fill in the voided areas that are left open, then this conflict will last only as long as the NATO forces want it to. Until that time comes along, here is to all the men and women fighting with blindfolds on in Afghanistan and anywhere else NATO declares themselves.

Ali A. Qalib   September 6th, 2008 1011 GMT

Is the world for real? the over publicised Taliban Fighter - Farouk, happens to be in his own country. He did not invade France or any of the so-called Nato countries. His dignity and survival are at stake. He fought the predators with honor. What is the big deal?

moxa   September 6th, 2008 1012 GMT

American foreign policy under the Bush administration is a fiasco. It was ok while they were bullying around much weaker countries, but now that they’re up against Russia, look how ridiculous and hypocritical they look!

Meir   September 7th, 2008 358 GMT

Can the French people ask themselves what their soldiers are doing in Afganistan. It was not started by any French president. It is like a servant doing the biddings of the Bush master. That’s is all. The Taliban have nothing to do with the French. So why are the poor French soldiers dying in Afganistan because of Bushes fallacy. How can Farouk be a bad person. He is only fighting invaders in his country. Would you not harm or even kill a burgler who comes to your house to steal. Isn’t protecting your wife and children a noble cause! That is what called Jihad in Islam. Protecting your family and property is a noble cause in all religions and cultures. If we keep our distance and respect our neighbours, everything would be peaceful. It is only when we start interfering into others’ affairs that problems arise.

Katherine   September 7th, 2008 1231 GMT

Hi everyone. Moxa, I agree with your statements. Any government, including our own government, cannot go around killing others for the their own glory. It is not the way real Christian-living is promoted around the world. Love God and love one another; yet the Bush Administration continues to put themselves above God. How ridiculous and hypocritical, I agree. When will this current administration learn the real teachings of the Heavenly Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Jesus wouldn’t agree with what this current administration is doing, never, ever. War is not the answer and it will never, ever lead to Peace. Peace comes with stop going to war, permanently. This way the terrorists and Taliban will not have any more fights to pick! Remember the great leaders of our times who fought without violence? Gandhi and Dali Lama are perfect examples of leaders who lead by Peaceful tactics. That takes guts and I consider those leaders the real leaders of historic significance.

robert marshall   September 7th, 2008 1358 GMT

Why do you give so little or no coverage to events that could have serious long term consequences for not only the U. S. but the world as a whole ? Case in point ;

1. Rice says congress should approve nuclear deal with India. What deal ?
2. Rice says time not right for nuclear talks with Russia. What’s going on ?
3. Why is the Bush administration breaking guided missile treaties and provoking Russia by proposing placing missiles in eastern Europe ? The Bush administrations handling of foreign policy has been a total disaster, which has created the conditions for another cold war era !!

mysterion   September 8th, 2008 1745 GMT

I’d like to say something reasonable about this War on terror -thing.I say it’s just another hoax.’Cause how many real terrorist are caught now ,besides guantanamo-bay(*),besides leader this ,leader that. How can a hand full of leaders be a serious thead to te U.S.,the most equipped country in the world.It has not only the most techical advanced Army,But also citizens are pretty well heavily armed.It has a secret service that claims to be 400 years ahead of the public ,in terms of technology.A than boom .A most peculiar coincedence on 09-11-01.After two years ,a bearded character claims to be guilty,on a amateur video ,you could hardly recognize the guy,and nobody could comfirm when where and how it was made.I think this is a little too obvious.And what about those poor suckers in Guantanamo ! the were kidnapped ,transported to countries that didn’t sign the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,to interrogate and probably torture them,took them from their families for many years now.And although there is suspection ,there is untill now not any proof of their guilt.These are all violations of human rights which is signed by the U.S!So when you would be the member of the family that had experienced this sudden disappearence,with no sign of live after,just stay cool and keep quit?Most of them are coming from the poorest countries in the world,how can they possibly be a thread to the U.S? eventually the U.S is not getting away with this, in 8 years time ,they have violated 28 of 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Go look for yourself! This is not an accusation to the American people, It’s more like you should give this Information to the American people ,to consider what to do with this situation, because it could be a block in the road to economic recovery.I beg you those who are not guilty according to human rights ,let them go back to their families.You are humans too,it are also your rights.when you don’t restore this than you take away your rights!Every citizen i mean!

mysterion   September 8th, 2008 1820 GMT

And than about Afghanistan,Iran , shoots some loose bullets for the Palestinans ,North- Korea,Russia.What is “Georgia”. Bush trying to Accomplish in godspeed?Total war? Under cover of the elections.Whatch this bloke,I’d say,he’s a daredevil.

Food shortage   September 8th, 2008 2253 GMT

Robert Marshall, if you know less then you are not sure. If you are not sure then you have to do what I do you to. So I would let you no less to nothing. Here, we even don’t want to know. It is what the media says.

mike   September 17th, 2008 040 GMT

Why taliban are winning?
Because the people of Afghanistan are Taliban.What does the word Taliban mean? It means students…Students of Islam.Who are they?
Avearage people? From uneployed, barbers, teachers, really poor people that has no future whatsoever if conpared to American Standards.Why are we fighting these people? We are fighting their belief…What is their belief? Islam. What is unite them Islam What is making them wake up in the morning and fight Islam. What makes them strong to blow up themselves and others for the cause Islam…What makes them love each other and join each other all over the world Islam…Therefore who are we fighting Islam. When a nation fights a belief they are doomed to lose, to lose every form of war…and the worst part is the more you fight it the more it becomes stronger…because you are fight becomes their physical proof to continue…islam is made for peace…you fight it it becomes still for peace, but now with a reason to fight back to preserve itself, peace.Islam as a religion aknowledges the reality of the world peace is beautiful but worth fighting for to death….now you all know the meaning of jihad in the islamic world, it means fighting for your belief to the death….now Afghanistan people are gonna use all means of war to drive us away from their land….we spend billions of our money to serve people we do not care about, we are not to built their country, to strengthen their economy….we are not to make them special…because our policy is to use them and teach them a lesson
…be aware of this: you send a soldier to kill, a soldier’s job is to kill, the army job is to kill…if you want to build a country you do not send soldiers you send builders…we have soldiers in afghanistan to kill taliban and anybody on the way…. so now we established that the policies you make and the objectives you target in every country are the results you are to see in the social, economy, cultural, polical grounds.Then my question will be, what have we accomplished in afghanistan? besides chasing Taliban…

mike   September 17th, 2008 041 GMT

Why taliban are winning?
Because the people of Afghanistan are Taliban.What does the word Taliban mean? It means students…Students of Islam.Who are they?
Avearage people? From uneployed, barbers, teachers, really poor the worst part is the more you fight it the more it becomes stronger…because you are fight becomes their physical proof to continue…islam is made for peace…you fight it it becomes still for peace, but now with a reason to fight back to preserve itself, peace.Islam as a religion aknowledges the reality of the world peace is beautiful but worth fighting for to death….now you all know the meaning of jihad in the islamic world, it means fighting for your belief to the death….now Afghanistan people are gonna use all means of war to drive us away from their land….we spend billions of our money to serve people we do not care about, we are not to built their country, to strengthen their economy….we are not to make them special…because our policy is to use them and teach them a lesson
…be aware of this: you send a soldier to kill, a soldier’s job is to kill, the army job is to kill…if you want to build a country you do not send soldiers you send builders…we have soldiers in afghanistan to kill taliban and anybody on the way…. so now we established that the policies you make and the objectives you target in every country are the results you are to see in the social, economy, cultural, polical grounds.Then my question will be, what have we accomplished in afghanistan? besides chasing Taliban…

Chris   September 23rd, 2008 701 GMT

By the way, pakistans leaders were not supposed to be at the Marriot at the time of the bomb. This was confirmed by a pakistani senator, prime minister’s residence and even the hotel owner of Marriot, one of the richest men in pakistan (behind the president of course). So, I really dont know where CNN is getting its information from as it is surely distorted. My first impression of this was that the pakistani establishment was trying to over-dramatize the issue, particularly after most news channels switched to other programs very soon after the blast, even though it was supposed to pakistans 9/11(LOL-seriously, they compared the Marriot attack to 9/11) . Talk about over-dramatization.

On a another note, I completely diasgree with the ambassdor to London, who is essentially blaming America for his country’s terrorist problems. Pakistan has been responsible for fostering terrorism and hate in the region ever since its inception as a free country. The open and brazen support to the taliban, who were used to give pakistan strategic depth (in terror assets) must be remembered. We should not ignore the fact that pakistan has been responsible for most of the terrorist strikes within Afghanistan and India. We must not forget Democratic Secular India, who has been a victim(and still is) of pakistani terrorism and cross-border terrorism. The most recent bomb blasts in Delhi were found to be financed and supported by a pakistani based terror outfit, called the Let (Lashkar-e-toiba).

I urge peopl not to take the Pakistan’s ambassodor’s views as the gospel truth. America is not responsible for terrorism in pakistan, pakistani people are. Pakistan needs terrorism to survive, its very existence as a nation is dependant on terrorism. If America leaves the war on terror now, pakistan’s nukes will fall into the hands of some frustrated terror module.

Chris   September 23rd, 2008 706 GMT

Mike- Since when was Islam a religion of peace. You may have got your facts distorted. Islam was never a religion of peace. Only after 9/11 did you get muslims in America speaking out against the terrorist attacks and saying ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ and so on.

If you were outside the US, and I do not even live in a muslim country, most muslims were laughing and cheering when the WTC towers fell down. You must understand, American muslims are relatively peaceful because they have no choice other than to be peaceful. As soon as Islam becomes dominant in a region they resort to force.

Tell me Mike, does chopping of a person’s arm, or stoning women constitute peace. Or what about be-heading. Surely, all peaceful civilized societies enjoy be-heading people in the name of peace.

Shah   October 9th, 2008 1126 GMT

Chris, just to put the facts right. Islam allows chopping of hands for theft, and that too only if certain conditions are fulfilled. Surprisingly (for most Christians), Christianity also allows the same but for a different reason.

(Deuteronomy Ch. 25 verse 11/12 )When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Anyone who understands English, the meaning is plain and simple. The wife is trying to set free the husband of the hands of the person who has grappled with her husband. But the Bible’s verdict is that her hands must be chopped off without showing any mercy to her. Now you tell me which one is more ecceptable. Chopping off hands for stealing or for saving someone’s life. The choice is yours.

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