September 22, 2008
Posted: 1531 GMT

LONDON, ENGLAND–Those were the foreboding words of Wajid Shamsul Hasan hours before the Marriott hotel went up in flames.

Marriott Explosion
Marriott Explosion

Hasan is Pakistan's High Commissioner here in London and while his words to me had nothing to do with the terror attack, his warning was prophetic.

Hasan's main concern before terrorists razed one of Islamabad's ‘Western' icons was American policy in Pakistan's tribal areas. The Pakistani government says it is furious at U.S. military incursions into the tribal regions saying it violates their sovereignty. More to the point Pakistani officials say, during these incursions the Americans have hit civilian targets, not Al Qaeda militants.

Which is what led Mr. Hasan to warn, "We're 160 million people in that part of the world that is already burning and volatile, all the region will be in flames if something goes haywire and these sort of policies continue so I'm sure our friends in America will listen to us."

But will American be listening? Even as President Asif Ali Zardari wings his way to Washington, American military and intelligence chiefs aren't necessarily looking at the Marriott attack as a game-changer. While there is considerable interest in who ordered this attack and how it was executed, the 'why' it happened is less material to American policy in Pakistan.

There was already word on Monday that a U.S. military helicopter may have made yet another incursion into Pakistan's tribal areas. The Pakistani President is hoping that the ‘I told you so' rant he delivers to President Bush will make him think twice about aggressively pursuing militants on Pakistani soil. In the words of Mr. Hasan, the Pakistani population can't take much more, enraged as it is over civilian deaths and American violations of their territorial integrity.

But in the same breath, the Pakistanis say they won't be intimidated by terrorists. They say they will continue pursuing militants in the Bajaur region, a notorious safe haven for terrorist training and activity. The Americans may be thinking to themselves the same thing the Pakistanis are saying in public: ‘We are not backing down'.

The problem with this American proposition is that there is the issue of a Pakistani border and the little ‘problem' of territorial integrity. More to the point, the Pakistani government claims American incursions have been largely ineffective, unless their intention is to cultivate still more resentment against the U.S. The fact is, while the Marriott attack will give a renewed sense of urgency to the Zardari meetings this week in the Oval Office, it will change little in the military planning offices across Washington.

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Abulkhair Sarhandi   September 22nd, 2008 1838 GMT

I am Pakistani of Pashtun origion. I was brought up in Sindh until I was sent to England at 14. I have lived in UK for 53 years. Married and raised children in libral tradition. I have been to USA and lived there more than 1 year. I have great respect for the American people and their friendliness. So do not take this out of politics and consider me fanatic.
Late this be clear to you who run tvs and newspapers that this every USA administration does not working for USA it works for Zionists who control the USA banking system. It has been observed that "Israel" mission is working in Kabul and the pupets in Kabul are willing to recognize "Israel". Why are they doing that you may ask . The answer will be found in the reality that "they will sell their mothers for power". Just like Mush did. And just like this Pakistani thief Zardari and gang are doing. These chaps are no good for their own people and they are infact the cancer which is harming the relationship between the USA and Afghan-Pakistan people.
USA forces must withdraw from Pakistan and Afhanistan and return to their basses 12 thousand miles away. "Israel is UK's baby and let UK look after it.
Time has come for the people of USA to resume its roll as genuine peace maker in a voletile world. In afghanistan no one wins accept Aghans and Pakistanis have not yet been tried but beieve me it is hornest nest better yes better left alone.

Nazneen Shahid   September 23rd, 2008 448 GMT

9/11 happened to America and no one can deny that it was a terrible tragedy. But somewhere along these years on its quest to get to the ghosts of the terrorists behind 9/11, America has become the greatest militant the world has ever known. Iraq, Afghanistan and now Pakistan are living a 9/11 everyday. Is this really about 9/11 for America? Is this really about making the world safer and more secure? No one is stupid. America has its own agenda and the world is finally beginning to see it.

While the common American sits amused before his TV screen watching one of the most elaborate and no doubt entertaining election campaigns, he doesn't even realize that his great nation of America has its mind set on going to war with yet another nation, Pakistan.

I love America, I have such fond memories of it but what the HELL is its Government trying to do?!

The following are some questions that plague my mind..

How are the US and Libya friends again?
Why did Poland mysteriously agree to the Missile Shield Agreement ?
What really happened in Georgia?
Did the crisis help the Republicans?
Why is the US still in Iraq?
How did Pakistan go from being friend to fiend?
Does the US just want Gwadar?
Will they make it another Hong Kong?
Or will we loose it like Bangladesh?
Is Pakistan really better without Musharaf?
Will it ever recover from his mistake of the NRO?
Did Asif Ali Zardari really become our President?
Why did Karzai have to be present when Zardari took oath?
Are the next four years going to be inspired by a change led by Obama Biden?
Or is it going to be more war in the name of Osama Bin Laden?
Who are the Taliban?
Did the US not create them itself to fight the Soviets?
Is there really a chance that Palin could be the US president someday?
Do we even have to talk about Palin?
Why are the markets crumbling?
Who’s money are they truly losing?
Has the credit bubble finally burst?
Why wont Asia learn from it?
Is the world’s wealth truly moving away from the West?
Are the Western troops ever going to find the way to this wealth?
Are hurricanes more deadly than war?
Does Al Qaeda have anything to do with hurricanes?
Did the Olympics give Beijing what it needed?
Will London be able to give the Olympics anything?
What's making the Kashmiris finally rise?
Do India and Pakistan still have a problem?
Will Pakistan ever become a democracy?
Will the army never leave?
When did Middle Eastern Studies become a major at college?
What is Iran's role?
Will Iran become the flagship state of the Islamic World?
Will the world ever understand Islam?
Will Muslims never practice Islam?
Are we on the verge of another World War?
Do we really know what's at stake?
Will we never learn till it's too late?

IS OIL A GOOD ENOUGH REASON?

Chris   September 23rd, 2008 603 GMT

By the way, pakistans leaders were not supposed to be at the Marriot at the time of the bomb. This was confirmed by a pakistani senator, prime minister's residence and even the hotel owner of Marriot, one of the richest men in pakistan (behind the president of course). So, I really dont know where CNN is getting its information from as it is surely distorted. My first impression of this was that the pakistani establishment was trying to over-dramatize the issue, particularly after most news channels switched to other programs very soon after the blast, even though it was supposed to pakistans 9/11(LOL-seriously, they compared the Marriot attack to 9/11) . Talk about over-dramatization.

On a another note, I completely diasgree with the ambassdor to London, who is essentially blaming America for his country's terrorist problems. Pakistan has been responsible for fostering terrorism and hate in the region ever since its inception as a free country. The open and brazen support to the taliban, who were used to give pakistan strategic depth (in terror assets) must be remembered. We should not ignore the fact that pakistan has been responsible for most of the terrorist strikes within Afghanistan and India. We must not forget Democratic Secular India, who has been a victim(and still is) of pakistani terrorism and cross-border terrorism. The most recent bomb blasts in Delhi were found to be financed and supported by a pakistani based terror outfit, called the Let (Lashkar-e-toiba).

I urge peopl not to take the Pakistan's ambassodor's views as the gospel truth. America is not responsible for terrorism in pakistan, pakistani people are. Pakistan needs terrorism to survive, its very existence as a nation is dependant on terrorism. If America leaves the war on terror now, pakistan's nukes will fall into the hands of some frustrated terror module.

Chris   September 23rd, 2008 609 GMT

The best solution to control terrorism in pakistan is to split the country into five different entities. NWFP will be an independent state, Balochistan independent and Punjab can be an independent state as well. Only this can save pakistan from a full blown terrorist crisis within their country.
Also, the US should impound and hold pakistan's nuclear warheads as they could fall into the hands of terrorists, as they have plenty of sympathizers within pakistan.
The ISI should be dismantled with immediate effect and should be treated on par as a terrorist organization. The destruction of the ISI will ease terrorism in pakistan as they will find funding hard to come by and 'high quality explosives' hard to procure.

Micheal Jackson   September 23rd, 2008 628 GMT

okay Mr. Ambassador. So when America leaves will milk and honey flow freely?
Mr. Ambassador, your country is a terrorist state. Aren't you harboring criminals wanted by India, like Dawood Ibrahim and various other ISI agents. ISI is a criminal terrorist organization and it is the responsibilty of the world to eradicate them.

Islam is a religion of peace. LOL. hahahahaha. Hardly any truth in that.

Chris   September 23rd, 2008 658 GMT

It is dissapointing that my comments were removed by the CNN moderation team. They were not the least bit offensive.

Well, Pakistan's interior ministry 'claimed' that the PM, President, Chiefs of Staff, e.t.c. were supposed to have dinner at the Marriot, on the night of that devastating bomb. Now, this claim is fundamentally flawed as a Chief Justice clamied that the 'dinner was always supposed to be at the PM's residence', the hotel owner also denied that the hotel was supposed to hold 900 dinner guests that evening he later said that there was no way that the hotel could hold 900 dinner guests even.
Now it begs the question, Why did they lie (again)? Are they trying to over-dramitize the issue and make it look as if they were the real targets? Are they trying to get sympathy from the outside world? What could be their motive to come out with such an obvious lie?

I believe that this issue was over-dramatized to gain publicity and world sympathy. Despite being responsible for mosf terror attacks in the world and a bredding ground for terrorists, the Pakistani establishment feels it needs to prove its anti-terror credentials at every opportunity. By saying so, the Pakistani leadership hoped to gain publicity by over-dramatizing the issue. The Pakistani leadership, right after the bombing, compared the attack to 9/11 saying it was a '9/11 on Pakistan'. Now, it is quite obvious that they were trying to over-dramatize the issue even at the earliest avaliable opportunity. We must ask the question of whether the Pakistani establishment actually knew of such a bomb taking place.

On another note it was quite dissapointing to hear that the Pakistani ambassador to London blamed America for his country's terrorist problems. Someone should remind the ambassador that his country was one of if not the main source of terrorism for decades. Just ask Democratic Secular India and they will you.

Andrew   September 23rd, 2008 857 GMT

It is amazing to see that the Pakistani people are very ready to accept America as a 'peace facilitator' in the world now, particularly after the 'Great Satan' has commited so mamy sins against the muslims.

Why then, I must ask, does Pakistan harbor so much hate against India and Indians, who are in essence their brothers and sisters. Sorry, rhetorical question, I got the answer. It is because Pakistan and the muslim fears America because they know America does not respect them, their religion, their way of life or their country. And they also know that America would not hesitate for one moment before bombing Pakistan.

I feel it is time India also take some tough actions against Pakistan terrorism. India must liberate Kashmir from Pakistani colonialism.

Anybody know what happened to the Hindus in Pakistan? The Pakistani secular muslims killed them or forced them to convert to Islam. Nice religion you guys got there Pakistanis.

If Pakistani's do not recognize the right of Israel to exist then it is only natural that other Western countries, and China and India do not recognize the right of Pakistan to exist. Since Pakistan was created for Islam and muslims it is inherently a racist cowardly state, whereas Israel is a beacon of democracy in the dark Middle East.

Andrew   September 23rd, 2008 902 GMT

Pakistan is still a state-sponsor of terrorism. The sooner their country is liberated and their people driven back to the Middle East the more safer the world will be.

Pakistan's nuclear weapons need to be captured by the US. It is only a matter of time before these nuclear weapons fall into the hands of jehadi elements within Pakistan.

Pakistan- Truly Hell on Earth

Micheal Jackon   September 23rd, 2008 904 GMT

Islam is a religion of peace.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL

Since when? Someone tell me the last time they were peaceful. I beg you.

mysterion   September 24th, 2008 123 GMT

Let's face it ,to restore the international relations we must first look: how did it happen?.

It happened as some kind of retaliation for the attack on 9-11 .

Mr Bush pointed like a mad man around the world,accusationing some kind of phantom.

Nobody had claimed these attacks, but in spite of that,Islam was assumingly to be blamed.

Without any proof ,that is !

The situation was very tensed,

The whole of humanity eagered for justice to be done .

Was it a wrong move?

Yes, it was.

It is always wrong to :

1)to do "justice' out of revenge

2)by ordering the violation of human rights,you also will no longer be judged by them.

So, to blame someone wihout proof is:

1) a violation of human rights

2)not exactly smart or strategic,By blaming the wrong persons,the ones who really did it ,are getting away with it.

3)Buddha ones said:"when someone is shot by an arrow,the first thing to do is not to blame anyone,but take a look at the damage,because you maybe can save a live,by reacting quickly.

This is even of greater significance in case of attack on the WTC.

It might have been attacked , to hit one of status symbols of the U.S or the western world.

Otherwise, it might have been a ordinary robbery,camouflaged as a terrorist attackt

In fact,at that time nobody knew ,actually who did it.So, wasn't it maybe kind of peculiar that Mr. Bush,without hesitation,blamed Islamic terrorists ,based on a single passport?

And everywhere in the world moslims were blamed and attacked,kidnapped ,tortured and imprisoned,without proof. So very determined and convinced.

The unrightious treatening of Muslims was so very sincere ,that after two whole years Binny Laden,out of revenge,claimed the attack,knowing it would make the fear for the Islamic terrorists furthermore increase,and giving theU.S -government a peace of their own (fruit)cake.I.o.w he used the ever increasing appetite for lynching by the U.S government eventually against them.

But when it really were terrorist attacks ,they would not be afraid to announce it worldwide that they ,Immediately after the attack, claimed it and would have explained why.

Why do I say this?Because otherwise this attack would be useless,with noone claiming it,and for no reason.

At least not as an attack on the decadent Western worlds' Icons of status and power .

To not claime the attack for two years is tiny,winy yellow.

Nothing for the terrorists ,that happily give their lives in suicide attacks,and after the suicide attack they 're not ashamed to play a video-clip with who it was to be blamed ,and why

The majority of the worldpopulation didn't share the vision of Mr. Bush,and at the same time got very angry, because of the arrogance and appetite for lynching,and the unjust and unnecessary violation of human rights exclusively on Muslems, by the Bush. administration.

,Although fear for the very same Administration, because of the inhumane methods held them back to take action,even the U.N.O.

So noone can ignore the fact that a lot was damaged as a result of mistakes

One can not only judge and convict the guilty ones,when also is proven that they did it.,but also judge and convict the Bush administration for making unacceptable fatal mistakes,that lead to unnecessary destruction,and the loss of tens of thousands innocent human lives.

These are towo different issues.One item is :who,s guilty of the attacks and bring them to justice,and the other is does the search of a hand ful terrorist, justify the killing of even more innocent victims ,because of revenge, on what ,in the end, turned out to be a hoax,although it created the necessary evidence for the Bush Administration,.

In order to be able to blame terrorist, now that they organized themselves after the false accussations of the attack by Islam,that they ,very understandable, felt insulted by. this is "selfforfilling prophecy damage

But now returning to the very core of the matter :looking at the This damage,that was done by the "Arrow" what does one see?

Not much because there was not much investigation,this fact was overblown by "War".But at least it is very well possible that it was an ordinary robbery and to investigate this possibility ,instead of the removal of all the evidence in three days ,is wisdom.It could have been very significanty avoiding the bancrupcy of diverse companies .Therefore,with the possibility of a robbery in the back of our minds we should thoroughly invetigate these bail outs!

mysterion   September 24th, 2008 148 GMT

This one's for Andrew :a beacon of democracy you say?look me straight in the eyes and say it ones again ,witout laughing.

mysterion   September 24th, 2008 151 GMT

This one's for Andrew :"a beacon of democracy you say?"look me straight in the eyes and say it ones again ,witout laughing.

mysterion   September 24th, 2008 230 GMT

And one for the record ,too: 6 weeks left to impeache Mr Bush,I am serious,even when it is on the last day!!!!!!!, that's where any action agaist the ticking time bomb of econimoc crisis needs to start to be succesful.If you do that, you won't regret it ,but if you don't do that ,you really will.Don't watch the elections,which are still a"hope for a future"show,but so far "only words',Watch what president "chimps" is doing under the smokescreen of the elections,how much more broke do you want to be .As the war on peace still takes 6 weeks to go ,too!!! when you only heared his speech today,you start to have cold chivers of hypocracy (which mainly manfest around the neck like being choked),how can we still endure this pharisian snake,when he would say :I have never spoken the truth,he would even lie at that very same moment.!?!?***$(#@%*&)maybe the only time he speaks the truth ,in order to impeach him for telling the truth(is also a lie)

M   September 24th, 2008 2132 GMT

Interesting comments mysterion, but I think you kind of lost it at the end. It is that type of ranting that ultimately leads the the disregard of all the rational comments that you said in the beginning and pigeon-holes your comments in the 'listen to this crazy fool go off' category. You shot your self in the foot. However, your point about the laps in claiming responsibility for 9/11 is curious and is used as an argument for how America is so wrong.
I personally feel that if someone wants to claim responsibility for an act of that nature, the more power to you. Be ready for the effects of your overwhelmingly stupid decision. Additionally, first thing that was done after 9/11 was help the victims (i.e. all the injured and families left behind). Personally, that is what I find great about America, as well as many other countries in the world. Charity is a trait that I think all great nations should have. People only focus on the bad and not the good. Yes, America is involved in a multi-national war. Evil, bad America. But America is also activly involved in supporting programs that provide aid to many regions of the world.
Now, I can completely understand the need for a government to support the local terrorist group when the other option is be their enemy. Furthermore, I don't care if they do. It is your land. You let whatever atrocities and human rights violations you want happen. I will pitty that nation. I would posit that it appears that several of these nations have done this.
The problem comes in when these 'ultra religious groups' or 'terrorists' that are happily ignored by the government (in some cases I suspect supported by the gov) reach outside of their normal realm of influence to smack a bigger bully. That is when you have to deal with the even bigger bully.
I would further posit that this scenario is what we are playing out now. I believe it is one that will probably not end any time soon. Especially with Russia, Iran and Venezuela beating their chest like a guerrilla. They certainly seem to feel that the evil democratic Americans are up to no good and will happily provide road blocks in Americas path, if given the opportunity.
Now for Micheal Jackon. I am certain that you, assuming you read this, noticed that I said ultra religious groups/terrorists. I find it sad that so many people have come to associate terrorists with Islam. You question when has Islam not been at war? Islam is a system of faith, not a physical, war declaring force. It, like other systems of belief, stems from deep roots in all of our pasts. It aims at the good, just like Christianity. It, like Christianity, can be distorted and twisted to fit the will of man. This has resulted and likely will continue to result in many atrocities around the world.
Additionally, Christianity has lead to the death of infinantly more people then any other religion, by both very bad people and holy wars. If anything, I would say terrorists really have to work hard if they want there religious war to clock in the number that some of the past leaders of worldly nation have under their belt.
Andrew, not sure I agree with the argument that America does not respect Muslims, their religion... I hope that we do. I would expect us to considering that we have the freedom of religion and the right not to be unfairly prosecuted. Muslims are not all the same. They are a group of people that vary in more ways then one could probably imagine. This is a moronically simple argument that I am presenting. However, I must agree with your India point. Why doesn't India work on Pakistan?
Chris, you made a very interesting argument. I would not be surprised if that was part if not all of it. I sounds not only plausible, but strategic. Nazneen Shahid, I have asked myself many of those questions too! If you find some of the answers, send them my way.
Abulkhair Sarhandi... That is just some good old Jew hating talk. If you respond to this, please tell me that you don't believe in the Holocaust. It would just fit all to well. I would argue that Jews do not run the TV. It is the fat, potato-chip eating American's that want to watch whatever stupid, not so real reality show. That is what drives TV. There may be some powerful Jews, but there are just as many Christians. I don't understand why it seems like the entire muslim population has such hate for the Jews of the world. Furthermore, why do you lack the same animosity for Christianity. Heck, it came from the Jews. It is like the parent religion or second volume. Yet, your point about the cancer of Pakistan society is exactly what I was saying earlier in the comment. I think you are right on the money with that one. Just the same... very interesting comments. I hope you all feel the same about mine.

zain   October 1st, 2008 525 GMT

Ignorance, bigotry, bias and prejudice. Please view the world without the help of these colored glasses.

According to the Vatican, Islam is the No. 1 religion in the world in terms of the number of people who practise it worldwide.

Acts of people who practise a certain religion has nothing to do with the religion itself. Hitler was a Christian and yet he was responsible for the extermination of millions of jews; similarly the people who killed half a million Japanese within a week by using atomic bombs were christians; do these acts have anything to do with christianity; Does that make christainity an evil religion? Of course not.

Please try to understand the No. 1 religion in the world by studying it, not by practising bigotry, bias, prejudice and sheer Ignorance.

Shahid Khan   March 10th, 2009 2258 GMT

Pakistan is fighting for its survival. Because of the fact that Pakistan is the only nuclear power, now the western countries and their allies are trying to destroy Pakistan. First off all distort the image of Pakistan all over the world through media. Pakistan is blamed for all terrorist activities in the world. 9/11 was the work of CIA's asset "Alqaeda" and all the so called terrorists were Arab, but yet Pakistan is blamed for it. After the soviet invasion of Afghanistan, all the western countries and USA helped Pakistan to create mujahideen and armed them to fight proxy war against USSR. Then after the Soviet retreat they left Afghanistan unresolved and the mujahideen started fighting with each other for the control. European countries and USA thought that Pakistan would not be able to control the mujahideen factions alone and it will spread militancy in Pakistan, then Pakistan itself will become prey to its policy and will get destroyed. But later Pakistan decided to launch a new organisation called "Taliban" and it secceeded in making government in kabul and hence making peace in Afghanistan. with the soviet retreat central asia got independence and CIA decided to take control of the mineral wealth of central asia, performed the 9/11 act, blamed taliban and alqaeeda for it and came to afghanistan.

Alqaeeds is an instrument of CIA, they appear in sudan when USA want to rubble sudan. Alqaeeda appear in somalia when usa want to rubble somalia, they appear in iraq when usa want to rubble iraq, they appear in afghanistan when usa want to rubble afghanistan. In future they will appear in Britain and Germany when USA will want to rubble them. Today every human being living on the face of earth can be taken in custody by CIA and sent to Guantonamobay if he do not obey CIA.
NOW USA is in afghanistan and they have made Afghanistan a base from where it can launch terror attacks in Pakistan. Look at oil rich saudi arabia, they dont have any army becoz USA forces are stationed there to save it from USA. As long as any mineral rich country obey usa and pledge its wealth with usa will be safe from the agression of usa. millions of millions of millions people are killed in this world in europe, asia, america, africa, and australia by the hands of europeans. west dont have any civilisation, and they cant live with civilised people.

But my friend, Pakistan is a different country. Pakistan has the right to defend itself through any mean. And let me tell all of you one more thing, that europe is nothing without America and the sole survival of USA depends on it retreat from Afghanistan and that is only possible with the hep of Pakistan. Pakistan runs in the veins of this region. There are some cowards who think that they should divide Pakistan. Well let me tell you that Pakistan cannot be divided. A muslim land cannot be divided no matter how many factions and sects exist there. did USA menaged to divide Iraq? Did USA menaged to divide Afghanistan? no, simply because they will reemerge again. Pakistan is the key to the solution and key to the problem. U cowards think that being at the distance of 12000 miles u can fix the problem? no u cannot, u only know how to butcher others to fill ur bellys. Pakistan is where every power come at their own feet and go back without feet.

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