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		<title>By: Danish Kazi</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Danish Kazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! there is a lot of heat in this discussion . Yes! it is true that there are a few of us who incite hate and encourage something which no humanity would allow . But trust me there are a few of them. It is encouraging to see the view of the author that she wants to bridge the gap b/w west and the islam . Without reading the book (But I would try to get a copy) I hope! she referred to some genuine sources through the intellectual of Islam . Trust me there are people who are peaceful and progressive .

I agree! that the picture for us the muslims is very grim . But the western civilization would have to understand that the many parts of our world are deprived of the luxuries of the west . The radical thought gets encouraged when this gap widens . In my view the western civilization has evolved over a period of time after reddenning the mud of Europe for centuires for much petty issues than religion but once they did and learned the lesson they are progressive , So here we also try the same to encourage the progressive thought .

No one wants to hinder the freedom of speech but what happens that when such writings appear the radicals within Islam gets an opporunity to spew hatred and make their case strong and moderates get mowed down . I think with freedom comes responsibility . If we want peace in the world ; we need to find a solution . Now we see every day economies getting collapsed . Why! becuase the world is at an un-necessary war between civilizations . Billions have been spent on it . If we act responsible we could fight against radicalism on both sides of the fence. Without offence the heat is on both the sides . 

Our religion teaches us to respect all the prophets before the Holy Prophet . We respect Moses , we respect Jesus not because we do a favor to anyone but that is what our religion teaches us . For us Holy Prophet is the last of all the lines of the prophets including Jesus and Moses and our respect is equally for all . We cannot imagine to be derigratory against anyone of them . We respect them as our own and so we ask for respect . It pains muslims when such un-necessary incidents happen . I hope , what the author is written is positive as she is committing like following in the footsteps of Karen Armstrong. There are so many western writers who have discussed Islam. Some I personally respect alot . Because they were intellect enought to approach even some sensitive issues within. I also wish she has done the same and managed to walk on the thin line b/w opinion and facts . 

Friends , now if we all want to live in a peaceful world . We need to resolve our issues . I am sure there would be people trying to do the same on both sides of the fence . But our job on the muslim side of the fence becomes difficult when such issues occur. Like some one said we are 1.5 Billion . and 99.99% are peaceful . Some of them have gone extreme but with only responsible behavior a target of 100% could be achieved .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! there is a lot of heat in this discussion . Yes! it is true that there are a few of us who incite hate and encourage something which no humanity would allow . But trust me there are a few of them. It is encouraging to see the view of the author that she wants to bridge the gap b/w west and the islam . Without reading the book (But I would try to get a copy) I hope! she referred to some genuine sources through the intellectual of Islam . Trust me there are people who are peaceful and progressive .</p>
<p>I agree! that the picture for us the muslims is very grim . But the western civilization would have to understand that the many parts of our world are deprived of the luxuries of the west . The radical thought gets encouraged when this gap widens . In my view the western civilization has evolved over a period of time after reddenning the mud of Europe for centuires for much petty issues than religion but once they did and learned the lesson they are progressive , So here we also try the same to encourage the progressive thought .</p>
<p>No one wants to hinder the freedom of speech but what happens that when such writings appear the radicals within Islam gets an opporunity to spew hatred and make their case strong and moderates get mowed down . I think with freedom comes responsibility . If we want peace in the world ; we need to find a solution . Now we see every day economies getting collapsed . Why! becuase the world is at an un-necessary war between civilizations . Billions have been spent on it . If we act responsible we could fight against radicalism on both sides of the fence. Without offence the heat is on both the sides . </p>
<p>Our religion teaches us to respect all the prophets before the Holy Prophet . We respect Moses , we respect Jesus not because we do a favor to anyone but that is what our religion teaches us . For us Holy Prophet is the last of all the lines of the prophets including Jesus and Moses and our respect is equally for all . We cannot imagine to be derigratory against anyone of them . We respect them as our own and so we ask for respect . It pains muslims when such un-necessary incidents happen . I hope , what the author is written is positive as she is committing like following in the footsteps of Karen Armstrong. There are so many western writers who have discussed Islam. Some I personally respect alot . Because they were intellect enought to approach even some sensitive issues within. I also wish she has done the same and managed to walk on the thin line b/w opinion and facts . </p>
<p>Friends , now if we all want to live in a peaceful world . We need to resolve our issues . I am sure there would be people trying to do the same on both sides of the fence . But our job on the muslim side of the fence becomes difficult when such issues occur. Like some one said we are 1.5 Billion . and 99.99% are peaceful . Some of them have gone extreme but with only responsible behavior a target of 100% could be achieved .</p>
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		<title>By: Muslim</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam will carry on whether or not this publication goes through and is printed throughout the world or not. The real truth is, most people are simply living their life as Muslims, not hurting anyone, really not impeding upon anyone’s rights, I mean there are over 1.5 billion of us, and we are living in peace, contrary to what many people think.

This is my personal opinion. If YOU do not incite the first blow, in other words, if you just stop these attempts to blaspheme against Islam (as interpreted by Islam, for which full disclosures can be obtained upon request from scholars) then your right to freedom of speech will not be hampered by the threats from Muslims who obviously feel violated from such an unprovoked attack by certain individuals from the West.

Muslims are not going round to western countries and telling them that you cannot have this freedom of speech, but you are simply inciting the type of response from them, which can be interpreted as been to restrict freedom of speech by the West. This is a perpetual cycle that only encourages hatred and fear from both sides, yes both sides. 

Because nobody from the Muslims is objecting your freedom of speech from the start, you should not be inciting the Muslims in the first place and then hide behind the banner of defending freedom of speech. This is in fact a cowardly act by the initial inciter, because let’s face it; Muslims will object to this type of behaviour from all spectrums, from the very moderate, to the highly observing individuals. And if you in fact incite the Muslims at bit too much, then you will get a reaction from them that has the potential of it being devastating, and I am not saying this as a threat, I am truly concerned that people from amongst the non-Muslim community just do not understand the reverence Muslims have towards our Islamic personalities. For example, we love our Prophet (p) more than ourselves and our parents. And we are mandated to defend his honour, at all cost. This is actually an order of faith, so we will have people who will use this Islamic mandate to fulfil their obligations upon their faith. Do see how deadly this situation can go? Has it got all the correct ingredients for civil unrest? You be the judge of that. Have we forgotten the cartoon controversy?  Even Muslims countries, which are supposed allies of the West, had started to boycott Danish products, then one country’s foreign minister said that if a Muslim was to commit suicide bombing to defend the honour of prophet Muhammad (p) then that would, in his eyes be justified. Can you get even more blatant than that? 

So we can see how this entire scenario can be played out, how did it start? Let’s go back, it began with a person who wanted to be famous, incited Muslims, then brought about the idea that freedom of speech was being under attack from “freedom hating people” ... and you know the rest.

Question, would someone be as bold enough to publish books denying the holocaust? Or defaming the Star of David? Thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam will carry on whether or not this publication goes through and is printed throughout the world or not. The real truth is, most people are simply living their life as Muslims, not hurting anyone, really not impeding upon anyone’s rights, I mean there are over 1.5 billion of us, and we are living in peace, contrary to what many people think.</p>
<p>This is my personal opinion. If YOU do not incite the first blow, in other words, if you just stop these attempts to blaspheme against Islam (as interpreted by Islam, for which full disclosures can be obtained upon request from scholars) then your right to freedom of speech will not be hampered by the threats from Muslims who obviously feel violated from such an unprovoked attack by certain individuals from the West.</p>
<p>Muslims are not going round to western countries and telling them that you cannot have this freedom of speech, but you are simply inciting the type of response from them, which can be interpreted as been to restrict freedom of speech by the West. This is a perpetual cycle that only encourages hatred and fear from both sides, yes both sides. </p>
<p>Because nobody from the Muslims is objecting your freedom of speech from the start, you should not be inciting the Muslims in the first place and then hide behind the banner of defending freedom of speech. This is in fact a cowardly act by the initial inciter, because let’s face it; Muslims will object to this type of behaviour from all spectrums, from the very moderate, to the highly observing individuals. And if you in fact incite the Muslims at bit too much, then you will get a reaction from them that has the potential of it being devastating, and I am not saying this as a threat, I am truly concerned that people from amongst the non-Muslim community just do not understand the reverence Muslims have towards our Islamic personalities. For example, we love our Prophet (p) more than ourselves and our parents. And we are mandated to defend his honour, at all cost. This is actually an order of faith, so we will have people who will use this Islamic mandate to fulfil their obligations upon their faith. Do see how deadly this situation can go? Has it got all the correct ingredients for civil unrest? You be the judge of that. Have we forgotten the cartoon controversy?  Even Muslims countries, which are supposed allies of the West, had started to boycott Danish products, then one country’s foreign minister said that if a Muslim was to commit suicide bombing to defend the honour of prophet Muhammad (p) then that would, in his eyes be justified. Can you get even more blatant than that? </p>
<p>So we can see how this entire scenario can be played out, how did it start? Let’s go back, it began with a person who wanted to be famous, incited Muslims, then brought about the idea that freedom of speech was being under attack from “freedom hating people” ... and you know the rest.</p>
<p>Question, would someone be as bold enough to publish books denying the holocaust? Or defaming the Star of David? Thought not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Tomblin</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Tomblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no real way to show Islam in a favorable light since they advocate MURDER and HATE against everyone including other muslims.When ever they send out bombers who kill more of their own than anyone else you can not tell me they have a good side.They mock and make fun of other religions and that is ok but do the same to then and that is WAR.Anyone who backs away from condeming Islam and Muslim Radicals are nothing more than Cowards who are letting them win in their Hate spewing.Condemn those who preach hate no matter what religion they profess.GOD(the REAL ONE) loves humanity and says THOU SHALT NOT KILL but to many Muslims are taught to kill and that is wrong.SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS HATE do not let it win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no real way to show Islam in a favorable light since they advocate MURDER and HATE against everyone including other muslims.When ever they send out bombers who kill more of their own than anyone else you can not tell me they have a good side.They mock and make fun of other religions and that is ok but do the same to then and that is WAR.Anyone who backs away from condeming Islam and Muslim Radicals are nothing more than Cowards who are letting them win in their Hate spewing.Condemn those who preach hate no matter what religion they profess.GOD(the REAL ONE) loves humanity and says THOU SHALT NOT KILL but to many Muslims are taught to kill and that is wrong.SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS HATE do not let it win.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Tomblin</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Tomblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the TRUTH is being pushed aside once more by so called Reporters.Those who are calling for the Daeth of an author are Radicals and Hate Mongers but the Media won&#039;t call them what they are because they have money and power.The LEFTIST LIBERAL MEDIA will defend any one but those who truely stand for the ONE TRUE GOD.Chritians can be mocked,ridicued and hated but not Muslims.Bill Maher a hate mongerer who made a movie that insults all REAL Belivers and even those who only believe partially and not one person says it is wrong but when someone writes a TRUTH about Islam and Muslims reporters cannot wait to conden and help that person be terrrorized by the radical elements that Many Muslim Nations let run free.Those of us who believe in THE ONLY TRUE GOD and that is not allah are sick of being treated like we do not matter or have rights.So until you so called reporters can do the TRUTH I for one am quite sick of your WHINING about poor little and its rein of DEATH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the TRUTH is being pushed aside once more by so called Reporters.Those who are calling for the Daeth of an author are Radicals and Hate Mongers but the Media won&#039;t call them what they are because they have money and power.The LEFTIST LIBERAL MEDIA will defend any one but those who truely stand for the ONE TRUE GOD.Chritians can be mocked,ridicued and hated but not Muslims.Bill Maher a hate mongerer who made a movie that insults all REAL Belivers and even those who only believe partially and not one person says it is wrong but when someone writes a TRUTH about Islam and Muslims reporters cannot wait to conden and help that person be terrrorized by the radical elements that Many Muslim Nations let run free.Those of us who believe in THE ONLY TRUE GOD and that is not allah are sick of being treated like we do not matter or have rights.So until you so called reporters can do the TRUTH I for one am quite sick of your WHINING about poor little and its rein of DEATH.</p>
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		<title>By: Update: Firebombs and free speech &#187; Winds Of Jihad</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Update: Firebombs and free speech &#187; Winds Of Jihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an interview with Sherry Jones from CNN: * Now don&#039;t wait for the moonbats from CNN to come out in favor of free speech. For them its only free as long as it doesn;t offend Muslims. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interview with Sherry Jones from CNN: * Now don&#039;t wait for the moonbats from CNN to come out in favor of free speech. For them its only free as long as it doesn;t offend Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Mysterion</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysterion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tip: read this ,when you can translate dutch ,
                                                                
http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/250156/Crisis-bewijst-zege-moslims.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tip: read this ,when you can translate dutch ,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/250156/Crisis-bewijst-zege-moslims.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/250156/Crisis-bewijst-zege-moslims.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew TX</title>
		<link>http://securityfiles.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/firebombs-and-free-speech-update/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now with all due respect to the Muslim faith, they are entitled to be offended by anything this author could have written. Threatening an author for her opinion is ridiculous. The death penalty applies to Islamic Sharia Law which is NOT practiced in the US nor in any other non-theocratic, non-muslim nations. However, in the Unied States we have the freedom of speech. Muslims around the world don&#039;t have to read the book. That simple, don&#039;t read it. Authors should not have to feel threatened when writing what they write regardless of what they write about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now with all due respect to the Muslim faith, they are entitled to be offended by anything this author could have written. Threatening an author for her opinion is ridiculous. The death penalty applies to Islamic Sharia Law which is NOT practiced in the US nor in any other non-theocratic, non-muslim nations. However, in the Unied States we have the freedom of speech. Muslims around the world don&#039;t have to read the book. That simple, don&#039;t read it. Authors should not have to feel threatened when writing what they write regardless of what they write about.</p>
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