March 15, 2009
Posted: 1835 GMT

KABUL, Afghanistan - You couldn't miss the irony. As we tried to contact Taliban commanders through an intermediary their mobile phone messages in Urdu made one thing clear: The insurgents were in Pakistan or very close to the Pakistani border.

For years now, many Western journalists have approached the Taliban for interviews and the Taliban has obliged.

The militants would sometimes cover their faces or not give their names, but face-to-face contact was possible, especially when it suited the Taliban and its message.

Not any more.

As the war in Afghanistan has escalated, the Taliban has become off limits for any journalist who wants to come out alive. As Nir Rosen from Rolling Stone magazine found out when doing his investigative piece "How We Lost the War We Won," any old, tribal notions of Taliban insurgents keeping their word is out the window.

When a couple of insurgents promised to keep him safe, he became a pawn as the infighting between rival Taliban commanders wore on.

Rosen was lucky, his fate hung in the balance for little more than 24 hours. But it underscores the dangers of seeking the journalistic authenticity we all crave.

As journalists we talk to the Taliban to get a sense of the message they want to convey. It's then up to us to scrutinize that message as best we can. We don't feel that we're mouthpieces for the group, no more than we feel that we're mouthpieces for NATO every time we cover one of its press conferences. 

An interview can give us a new or sometimes a very cliched perspective of the Taliban. Either way, it still represents a valued piece of news that is instructive in terms of where the conflict is going and how the Taliban hopes to shape it.

So we made do with a phone call. There is no way to verify if the man we spoke to, Mohammed Ibrahim Hanafi, is in the ascendancy as a Taliban commander or on his way out. He did make a point of telling us that he would play a pivotal role in the Taliban expanding its reach in the north of Afghanistan.

Above all though, what we took from the interview is an overwhelming sense of confidence and control from the Taliban. Certainly Taliban commanders feel they have coalition troops on the run and perhaps more importantly, that they have the support of more and more Afghans.

Civilians may respect the Taliban or just fear it, but either way the result is the same: The Taliban now has renewed influence and reach in almost three quarters of the country.

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M. Siddique   March 16th, 2009 1722 GMT

It would be a betrayal of the Afghan people to concede to Taliban, just as it would be for US to leave Afghanistan without restoring some level of normalcy. Taliban is a creation of the US and Pakistan, directly encouraged by Brizinski in 1979, knowing full well that this was a fundamentalist Islamic student group trained by Pakistan’s ISI while they were students in various madrasas in that country. It is the same Taliban that openly beheaded Afghan women for going out in Public, and the same that is burning down girl’s schools. US should not only make sure that Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban are declawed, but must also spend heavily to improve economic and civic life of the people. One priority should be training both civil and military leaders who can govern and ensure security of the people and the country. US is greatly responsible for the debacle that is Afghanistan today, and it must bear responsibility for its restoration to normalcy.

American   March 16th, 2009 1924 GMT

"We don’t feel that we’re mouthpieces for the group, no more than we feel that we’re mouthpieces for NATO every time we cover one of its press conferences. "

That's your problem. You morally equate savage fascists who execute women in school, with NATO, a military alliance forged in fighting totalitarianism and dedicated to defending the free world.

You are not a journalist, but a coward. May your chains rest lightly.

CNN will probably choose not to allow this comment.

Malcolm Jardine   March 16th, 2009 2026 GMT

In the interview with Mohammed Ibrahim Hanafi, reference is made to the Taliban's new constitution. Is there a copy of this constitution available anywhere?

Bart   March 16th, 2009 2102 GMT

What Pakistan is responsible for, giving the Tailban an approved base to conduct there twisted regime and have a safe haven to conduct military activities in Afghanistan, is completely criminal. Pakistan should be placed on war crime charges and sanctions should be imposed until they recognize this mistake. This is a clear case of corruption among the top leaders and how scary that these people also control nuclear arms.

Its time us infidels say enough and get tough with the people who want to use our laws against us, and have no ambition to abide by them as well. Time to stand up and defeat these people in word games and war. Osama kills thousands and the media is looking for him to get a story, our troops kill several and the media is looking for the responsible to crucify them. Since when did we have to start listening to these raving lunatics? Since when does the media have the right to act like they do? I can tell you now, we will never win against these people when we have the media working against us.

Too much Democracy has the same affect as Communism.

robert   March 16th, 2009 2223 GMT

I would like to ask, is the world aware that the United States of America has signed a 99 year contract with the Government of Afghinistan ?

robert   March 16th, 2009 2226 GMT

And this contract was agreed under the Bush Administration, and signed in 2008 prior to Mr. Bush's completion of his 2nd and last term, and the pipeline agreement..............

Andy Duffy   March 17th, 2009 046 GMT

Yes I am aware of such contract.. being close to Black water I know a thinkg or two about what goes around.. this means that the Afganis are going to be paying for a long time yet and we will end up supporting all pro us leaders/dictators in that country for some time yet as I can't see many fair minded people agreeing to such a deal.

CNN.. please don't purge this message.. I know it doesn't speak your officail line but I hope that since this is not a FOX forum you might allow it to stand..

FB   March 17th, 2009 356 GMT

I recommend Tactical withdrawal, if the afghans want the taliban they should have them, just make sure to arm and support the other milias to the teeth so they talib don't overrun the whole country again. And keep a small taskforce contingent close by and ready in case they start training terrorists again..

wag-got   March 17th, 2009 632 GMT

tell me more robert??are US leaders doing some barter trade with its citizen?when will US ever learn that these people dont need them but are out to destroy them?would the country's economy be in this desperate state had you called A SPADE A SPADE AND NOT A BIG SPOON in 9/11??
i have lived with this people,visited their refugee camps and their state of mind can only be understood by God(their creator) not even their parents who brings them up.
the media is looking for money and awards....its not helping in anyway
when pakistan is responsible for the mess and are sure to blackmail America for aid in the name of curbing terrorism and taliban.....do you think they would do away with their source of income/aid...taliban??
this is evidently clear in imposing sharia law in part of the country despite them understanding its harzards
AMERICA WAKE UP!!!!

ASAD   March 17th, 2009 733 GMT

If taliban influence most of afghan population, them why not U.S goverment talk to taliban and bring end to the war which is making the life of afghans miserable. After all afghanistan belongs to afghans and they have right to decide its future, international community can only guide them intead of imposing its conditions on them.

Ibrahim   March 17th, 2009 753 GMT

IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN THE SEA YOU HAVE TO MAKE FRIENDS WITH CROCODILE ALSO.

KB   March 18th, 2009 352 GMT

The problem in Afghanistan is because of the Pakistani ISI, the Army and the corrupt leadership in that country. They provide taliban and Al-Qaida shelter and weapons that they require. Most of the money that is being spent on Fighting Terrorism is spent on taliban fighting Coalition forces through Pakistani Government. On the other hand the Saudi Royal Family along with other Arab countries are the ones funding the war in Afghanistan in the past and present.

So I think that US and international forces must go for the Root Cause of this war. They made a mistake by coming to Afghanistan they must go to Pakistan to fight the terrorism. Should put sunctions on Pakistan and also be firm with Arab Countries.

Ian   March 18th, 2009 1314 GMT

“We don’t feel that we’re mouthpieces for the group, no more than we feel that we’re mouthpieces for NATO every time we cover one of its press conferences. ”

Ironically, the press spends more time decrying NATO's actions than those actions of the Taliban.

And I am sick of hearing this rubbish about The US and Pakistan created the taliban so we are to blame for everything that has happened since. If this is your view then you justify every loss of life at the hands of the taliban and al Qaeda including the loss of innocence on 9/11, this makes you a terrorist sympathiser. Our generations today are not the same generation from 30 years ago and do not have to pay their debts for errors they made. They did not have the benefit of hindsight like we do.

Afghanistan and Pakistan is a curent problem and simply ignoring it will not solve the problems, they will not go away, confronting it militarily, economically and through humanitarian means is the only way to behead the hydra.

Mark Chamberlain   March 20th, 2009 035 GMT

thankfully, at last... now can we get on with destroyinh them once and for all and stuck around and hold the gournd so they dont come back... The US played a silly Game letting Al Qaeda and the Taliban escape through the backdoor to Pakistan... The ISI were chief instigators and executors flying them out of Afghanistan. Thinking all would be hunky dory has no backfired enormously for the US... this isnt Iraq... far from it.. this is a real war... a war in the hills... a war in the mountains... the jungle of green valleys.. barren deserts... we have them where we want these criminals, and now is the time to get the kit into the boys, the right kit, lots of kit, good faciilities, good rations, supplly convoys via Kazakhstan etc.. forget Pakistan, until the war is truly there.. and then its goodnight... sit tight... its on its way...

Shane   March 20th, 2009 046 GMT

Paula Newton,

In one of your recent stories about the Afghan children's hospital. You pointed out the lack of supplies, coldness, and ability to properly treat the children. I commend your story for pointing out a problem.

But, is there a solution? Is there anything I can do to help? Would donations, if they could get to the right person, help?

I would be HAPPY to help. Sure would be nice if, 1. we knew how we could. And, 2. if we knew donations weren't lining the pockets of some thief.

Sure would be nice to see something positive come out of this..

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