May 14, 2009
Posted: 1419 GMT

What do the photos of alleged abuse of detainees actually show and who took them?

There are apparently more than two thousand photos that allegedly show prisoner and detainee abuse. These photos come from two different sources: Personal snapshots taken by military personnel whose conduct contravened military laws and secondly, photos that were taken as part of military criminal investigations that sought to document allegations of abuse, including autopsy photos of prisoners who died in custody. The photos deal exclusively with alleged incidents in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama reverses course on release of photos

Who is the ACLU and why do they want the photos released?

The ACLU stands for the American Civil Liberties Union and they have lobbied for years both in court and in political circles to have these photos released. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a Freedom of Information Act request in October 2003 for all photographs pertaining to U.S. military detentions to be released. That request was denied and in 2004 the ACLU filed a lawsuit. In September 2008, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ordered the photographs released. The Bush administration challenged the ruling, but the court denied that petition in March.

The Obama administration then told a federal judge that it would release a "substantial number" of photos in response to the court ruling in the American Civil Liberties Union Freedom of Information Act lawsuit but then reversed itself.  The ACLU has always maintained that only through full transparency and disclosure can the United States come to terms with the alleged atrocities and ensure that they are not repeated.

Why did U.S. President Barack Obama decide initially to publish the photos and why did he subsequently change his mind?

President Obama originally indicated last month that instead of continuing to legally fight the ACLU, it would abide by the most current legal ruling that the photos could be released. Now, he has reversed himself and indicated that the U.S. government would continue to fight the ACLU in court to keep the photos out of the public domain.  According to White House spokesperson Robert Gibbs, “The President, as you all know, met with his legal team last week because he did not feel comfortable with the release of the photos."  That discomfort apparently arose after military commanders warned it was not in the national security interest to release the photos. President Obama explained his action by saying “The most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to further inflame anti-American opinion and to put our troops in greater danger.”

What has been the political reaction to the decision to block the photos?

The Obama administration is now fielding both criticism and praise for its reversal. Some Republicans applauded the move saying they were gratified Obama was listening to military commanders as the Bush administration had. “I agree with the President that the release of these photos would serve no purpose other than to put our troops in greater danger,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican. But human rights advocates now accuse Obama of contributing to a cover-up of alleged abuses committed under the Bush Administration.

Is there any evidence that the photos affect the safety of U.S. troops and "inflame anti-American opinion?"

In the past, the Abu-Ghraib photos that documented detainee abuse at the hands of American soldiers have been used on jihadist websites to backup claims that American troops mistreat Muslims. These photos can serve as radicalizing elements and extremist preachers have in the past used these incidents of alleged and proven abuse to motivate attacks against American soldiers and targets. There has been much talk in recent years about ‘blowback’, the concept that there will be retribution all over the world against Americans for their actions if both Afghanistan and Iraq. But the ACLU argues that as repugnant as the photos are, the only redeeming act that would infer a measure of justice would be to release them.

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simon   May 14th, 2009 1715 GMT

The achange which Obama promised is the change over how he intends to run his administration. He never promised to change how his predicessor (president Bush) ran his administration as this is not with his reach.

The top military commanders are in a better position to know what will inpact on morals of their troops. ACLU is not expert on military matters.

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Michael H. Standart   May 14th, 2009 1848 GMT

As a retired Navy man, I'm not in favour of doing anything which puts the troops in danger, however, the assertion that releasing the photos would endanger our troops is not one that I'm convinced is entirely valid. It's not as if the nominal Bad Guys don't know about this. They have cellphones, Internet access and even websites the same as anybody else, they listen to the news and that includes CNN, and they don't mind using those resources to promote their agenda.

Hiding this doesn't hinder them, it serves them by letting them cry "Cover up." Whether such a claim is valid is of no consequence. What is of consequence is the perception that it is.

We need to face this in an above the board manner and hold those responsible for the so-called "enhanced interrogation techiques" (And let's call it torture since that's exactly what it is!) accountable to the law and we do it for everybody to see.

If the United States wants to CLAIM to be the Good Guys and get whatever moral authority which comes with BEING the Good Guys, then we need to BE the Good Guys.

(Yes, you have my permission to state this on the air.)

Luis Fernando Vallejo   May 14th, 2009 2205 GMT

Mas que querer ver las fotos (y con esto aumentar el morbo y el sensacionalismo de los medios) la comunidad internacional reclama de Obama un castigo ejemplar a las personas que torturaron pero en especial, a las personas que dieron las instrucciones de hacerlo.

ikechukwu oboegbulem   May 14th, 2009 2241 GMT

Since the people responsible for the abuse of prisoners have been sanctioned, I do not think it is necessary for the sake of showing transparency to make the pictures public. It would cause more problems than it would solve and would definitely embolden the terrorists. The ACLU do not see the big picture as the president does. Even though President Obama promised to be transparent, a foolish transparency that endangers the lives of soldiers and other Americans all over the world is uncalled for.

Ikechukwu
Festac, Lagos

Udy Esset   May 14th, 2009 2304 GMT

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION NEED SOME TIME TO CLEAN UP THE EVIL PERPETRATED BY BUSH'S GOVT.AM SURE VERY SOON PEACE WILL RETURN TO AFGANISTAN AND IRAQ.

Distant Smoke   May 15th, 2009 115 GMT

It's only OK when a DEMOCRAT says it's OK.

Donald Persons   May 15th, 2009 300 GMT

This is truly a connundrum. Morally, Americans should not be engaged in the first place in actions that are unconsitutional. The fact that those actions were sanctioned by Bush show how far down the road to legal demise Americans have come.

The release of the photos demanded by the ACLU during the Bush administration was a call to accountability. I believe Obama has already decided not to pursue the prison guards over the matter. I have no problem with that, since people on the ground were acting on orders they received from above. They did so in ways that brought results for the intelligence community. Lives were scarred. Some were lost. Does the Obama government's decision in this matter, in order to deny fuel for extremist information warriors, in any way indicate that this will become a pattern of cover ups and face saving by the current US administration? I certainly hope Obama can reaffirm constitutional law and announce procedures that will increase such accountability. This will not achieve results in intelligence, but will achieve other benefits.

Tom   May 15th, 2009 503 GMT

I learned a long time ago that all of Hitler's dirty work was legal, too; of course that's pretty easy to arrange when your a dictator. I seem to recall a recent president saying a lot of things were easier that way...

Point is this – I don't care what the lawyers said, when they said the tactics were legal, they were flat out wrong. And individuals, last I checked, are still responsible for their actions, no matter what their lawyers told them.

Every solder knows something from the Geneva conventions, and probably just about every CIA agent used to be a soldier/sailor/whatever, so, they've all heard it before that torture was illegal, period.

It's very possible thast releasing the photos could cost lives. NOT releasing them would probably cost even more of them.

If you want to stop validating the behavior of these terrorists, stop stooping to their level, release the photos, and make laddie daddie everybody who conducted, condoned, or provided cover (legal or otherwise) for tourture, to answer for it, with the full weight and sanction of the law.

Oliver Wendal Holmes was right – Sunshine truly IS the best medicine.

farida   May 15th, 2009 745 GMT

Tank you Obama for The Change .The chang of mind 111

Billy   May 21st, 2009 1432 GMT

This kinda stuff makes me sooo angry, How many of you people have ever been in a combat zone? Tom, you say we shouldn't stoop to their level, let me get this straight, so if I'm an american soldier, and a militant, or insurgent, fires his rifle in my direction with the intent to kill, that I should not fire back, with the intent to kill as well, UNDERSTAND, THIS TURN THE OTHER CHEEK STUFF DOES NOT WORK IN WAR, IN A COMBAT ZONE IF YOU DO NOT KILL YOUR ENEMY FIRST, HE WILL KILL YOU. As far as the torture stuff goes, its like this, would a militant think twice about torturing an american trooper for information? The answer is No, he wouldn't think twice about it. In fact, his torture techniques are 10 times worse than ours ever could be. No, were not talking waterboarding, or locking someone in a box with insects. No, We're talking about folks getting the hell beat out of them, kept on the edge of death, men and women getting just enough medical treatment to be kept alive, and then when the militants get the information they need, getting killed. Now, I understand, the UCMJ, and understand the Geneva convention. Its like it always is, the folks who never see the battlefield, and the ones who make the rules in war. LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT, THERE ARE NO RULES IN WAR, YOU DON'T GET A 15 MINUTE BREAK TO SMOKE A CIGARETTE, YOU DON'T GET TO GO THE SODA MACHINE, TO GET A COKE. American troops cannot protect us if we do not give them the means, to proect us with. The Geneva convention was made and drawn up by Civilized nations, after World War II, back then there weren't Islamic fundamentalists, and if there were, they weren't powerful enough to cause a problem. Terrorism came about in the 1960's and 1970's after the Geneva convention was put into place. That's why today we have Seal Team 6, and Delta Force, as their primary purpose is anti-terrorism. It seems you people forget, what this war is about in the first place, the people who were tortured were apart of that group called Al-Qaida, who hijacked commercial jets and ran them into civilian buildings, killing thousands of people, on American soil. Obviously, these men, and women could give two shits about what is ethical. Lets put the shoe on the other foot for a moment, if someone kidnapped your child, and one of the kidnappers, was in your custody, not in police custody, but your custody, inside your home, tell me you wouldn't do whatever you needed to do in order to find out where your child was, including, waterboarding, starvation, hell, you might even include breaking bones into that equation. I'll tell you the answer of course you would, you would do anything you could to make the person talk, in order to save your child's life. Did you act in an immoral way toward the kidnapper? Of course, you did. But, it quite possibly saved your child's life. Well, these torture tactics used on Al-Qaida operatives, is the very same thing, did the U.S. government use immoral tactics to get information? Yeah, they did, but if they hadn't and some plan set up by Al-Qaida was set into motion, its possible that some of you, commenting in this blog, would not be able to comment at all. Now I have seen this in the news recently, more people are against the war than ever before. When 9/11 happened there was a public outcry, people wanted revenge, people wanted to string the militants up by their necks, but now that we have gone to war, against those same people, and that war has lasted, people are against it. Your nothing but a bunch of hippocrites, what if we could go back in time, and capture one of the 9/11 terrorists before the attack happened, do we torture him, to learn what he knows, of the attacks to prevent them from happening, or do we not torture him, remain oblivious to their plans, and let thousands die. Well my rant is over. I have nothing more to say.

Billy

Teredo   June 9th, 2009 324 GMT

As the members of the Bush administration were guilty of breaking both US and international laws by condoning torture, one wonders why they have not been charged with crimes against humanity. Maybe the have been kissing the rear ends of the Zionists in Israel for so long they figured they could follow their game plan.

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